Friday, April 15, 2005

Two Standups?

I was in Milwaukee last weekend. One of the stations there was doing something where reporters had two standups in stories.

One was very video poor, so I was okay with that, but one was very visual and the photog did a great job with the b-roll and the way he/she framed up the interviews. But still two standups. I don't know if they're trying to get their reporters more face time or what...

Not sure how I feel about it. From a storytelling perspective, it feels very intrusive to me. But from a "connecting to your audience" view, it probably has some merit. Haven't traveled much since taking my non-video job kast summer, which means I haven't been watching as much stuff from other markets... so I don't know if this is some consultant thing that's catching on elsewhere.


Anonymous said...

oh, it's a Magid thing.

I think it can work if the reporter is showing something....if it's a walk and talk or a standing there "hey look at me" then it's just making that reporter part of the story.

I've shot 5 minute packs before that had two stand-ups.

Last year, Will Koch did a story about a guy trying to break a free-throw record and it had about 6 stand ups. A couple days later, Steve Nicoles did the same story....with no stand up. Which was better? My opinion is Steve's because it was about the weren't distracted by seeing the reporter 5 times. It was a good idea of Will's to try something new, but his photographer didn't help him much and it really made the package about Will's face instead of the guy.

Edgar said...

When I was still reporting, I'd rather not have done a standup... even after a consultant called me on it with the "connection to viewers/credit for your story argument"... which of course now I get and can support.

A good one can help tell the story and yes, inject some of the reporter's personality when appropriate.

I guess I think multiple standup thing just depends on the story.

Jonathan Ahl said...

The best standup I remember in Market 117 was one of Edgar's features on some kind of fair or carnival set up by kids.

Edgar told the story from the perspective of kids, with them doing most of the actual "work" on the piece.

Anyway, the standup was a little girl saying "This is what consultants call reporter involvement" right before pressing the taget on the dunk tank.


Edgar said...

Thanks for remembering Jon... see I'm not above making fun of myself in public.

Actually, my favorite part was in the end when I had her do a standup close and toss back... she tosses back to "Mac and Mark" then corrects to say "Mike."

Out of the package Mac and Mike cracked that she's better than half the reporters in the market.

Anonymous said...

hey, I remember that Kidsfest story. I shot it with Edgar. still have it on an old tape somewhere. we had some fun. if I remember correctly, we did our early evening live shot, then had to firgure out a way to turn it into a good pak. it was a nice night, and I don't think we wanted to work too hard, so we let the girl do some reporting. but it was all Edgar's idea and his personality sold it...especially the close.

as for the two standups, it is a Magid thing and I've been doing them here for two years now. we actually do three sometimes. if we're not live, then we tape "look-lives" standup open and standup close(with obnoxious extended over the shoulder grx required) then ND usually wants one in the middle somewhere, but you've sometimes already used your good ideas. I tape them and try to make them work, but sometimes the bridge(mid. standup) gets cut out.

I don't like it, although you do have to think your story through, sometimes writing the whole thing, out in the field, and it can save time.

one of the first things I learned is the story isn't about me. but I now end up popping up in about half of it(did a report just complain about too much face time?) I always thought standup opens or closes were lazy. there has to be a better way to begin and end than seeing my mug. I try to get around it by making my "insert" paks, live or look-live, able to stand on their own.